They themselves strive to reach that level. no.185 of Mandal Commission report list of Kerala state and at sl. Second, it is Thiyyas themselves who pleaded to Sree Narayana Guru to include Thiyya with this combo due to social injustice that they faced. All old Indian circus companies were owned by the Thiyya kalari gurus of Tellicherry, Kannur, Kerala, India and circus was performed by their disciples. Those days only two people owned cars. Your vote bank is going to be zero. He is one of the Nayannars seen with a sword in all his statues. Thacholi Othenan and Unniyarcha etc were very famous, those days.Their brave stories were sung as vadakkan paattu in the form of song, sung during, farming, harvesting by ladies in north Malabar region and also during Thiyya marriages by the ladies, while grinding the coconut for curries, in north Malabar region. The redirection of the page is unfair. . SNDP is a group where they support each other. To clarify further details, i would take the support of myths and history so that all of you understand how these lineages, tribes, clans and caste formed from a single human breed. She saw an old man at the top of the palm tree and called out to Him as "Muthappan" ("muthappan" means grandfather in the local Malayalam language). it happened because, only the eldest of brahmin brothers could marry at that time and the rest had sex with thier house maids and this is the reason why polyandri was prevalent in nair let me tell uyou that recent Genetic studies show that the allelic distribution of Ezhavas in a bi-dimensional plot (correspondence analysis based on HLA-A, -B, and -C frequencies) has a rather strong East Eurasian element due to its proximity to the Mongol population in the same there my be a link between thiiya"s and ezhavas —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC), Thiyya is a separate caste classified by the government of India. 28) Pranagnihothra Upanishad Why don't you provide some genuine information? Similarly the Christian machineries also did lot of harm to Hindus. The song is more or less extem- pore, and each "side must be ready with an immediate answer. Let me tell you something. 23) Akshi Upanishad Those days everyone had the concept of illams and marriage within same illam was prohibited. fish, chicken and mutton. No association or third party is involved in their marriage process. Open with Google, a Thisis submitted to University of Mysore for PhD in Anthropology, by V. Jayarajan. Kali yugam is based on Astronomical phenomenon. Ezhava is a collection of castes, they get along peacefully. Kubera clan was known as Yakshas and Yakshis..There were few other tribal lineage evolved through Sage Bhrigu, which was known as Agni Vanshi. Thiyya Matrimonial; Thiyyas, also known as Ezhavas and Billavas, form the largest Hindu community in the state of Kerala. There is a Salem in Massachussets and does not mean that people living there are from Salem, Tamil Nadu. 15) Soorya Upanishad Now, they don't really talk much about their castes, rather they are open to other castes. All are Ezhavas, there is no single Thiyya. For example: 7th Manwanthara, 28th Mahaayuga in which 4th Yuga, which is the 5121 Kali yuga varsham (year), utharayana or dakshinayana, masam (month), paksham (Krishna paksham or shukla paksham), thithi, and date in Malayalm or 1870491 kali dinam ( Kali day count) (pertains to 18th May 2020 or 4th Medam 1195 (Malayalam era) mentioned for that day, then the time of doing the ritual. Ezhava is the name of caste which is seen in southern Travancore. I feel South is much more forward that the North. So people don't really segregate much because that fact made it difficult to get married. In the Assembly polls, the sources said, the BJP-led coalition received 33 per cent of votes of the Nair community (UDF 20 per cent and LDF 45 per cent); 17 per cent of the Ezhava/Thiyya … If someone bully's you. Did you read through the whole article? Oldest record of channan is the saivite nayyannar and Chola military general, Enathinathar who lived between 5th and 8th century AD. Suhruthe - pls dont purify the nair-nambuthithiri Sexual relationship by calling it marriage or Sambandham.. Clearly. That is their rights. Malayalam wikipedia page are seperate for thiyyar and ezhavar. I am not sure. if count population of all other illam community (from pulaya to Bahamian), together and compare still the count will be very less than thiyya population. 4) Atharvashira Upanisad Ezhava (or Elava in Tamil rich old Malayalam) literally means people from Elam or Elanka or just Lanka, todays Sri Lanka. Please sign your comments. In thiruvithamkoor you can find vaniyans who came from tamilnadu ( These people have the most dravidian look as you said) So the elapsed years is 5120 (=D). The side which is reduced to the extremity of having no answer is beaten and under ignominy. Thiyya community also worship their Karanavanmar (great respected Thiyya elders), Gurukkanmar (Guru or teacher of Kalari), Vazhunnor (Thiyya king, named Mannanar), and other great Thiyya personalities in the form of their Theyyam. There is no compulsion. All the above fallback on the Britishers as well later Government and those rulers pushed us down in the ladder.. By the way we should feel proud as a community on all those revolts. Which shows that eminent Thiyyas were in Cochi.The migrationof Thiyya came from Kargistan to Malabar you cannot say that community ends at North Malabar. Kundalini activates from Mooladhara chakra to Sahasrara chakra through eda and pingala sushumna nadi, of a person, if one meditate properly. When Brahmins were priests those days, they tried to bring this false belief among people that they are closely related to god and if they curse, it kind of kills your family or something like that. Like we don't care. It won't be too late for you to taste it as well. Most,supposed to be facts, put in the original post is what I heard from my family who have been in Kannur since generations. Lets not comment on the entire community :) (that is the comment which made me write to you) Paid agents of SNDP has redirected Thiyya wiky page to Ezhava. Yes. Both are having different wiki article.. 7) #travel. Thiyya consumes boiled rice with fish curry, fish fry, Kallummakayi (Mussel), Crab etc for lunch and dinner. He shot an arrow upward from Kunnathoor. Lets be clear here. I tried all sources to obtain a Community Certificate.... buy I couldn't.... thanks for confusing me . Now the question of freedom ,identity of THIYYAcomes first.A fter the formation of kerala state Thiyya is included in Ezhuva vide an education department circular that it self without the state assembly approval and without the knowledge of any MLAs of this region.In 2008 while preparing the socially and educationally backward community list ie SEBC list the same word is . A similar looking house as Varikkasseri mana. You should be proud of your ancestors. Oh my dear god. There were Ayurveda Vaidyars, Warriors, Kalari Trainers, … Recently the Malayalam book Lankaparvam was in the news for making the claim that Thiyyas were from Kyrgyzstan. They are not seen in South Travancore. All expenditure for his wife, for the delivery and for child care will be borne by the husband. Why? 6) Bruhathjabala Upanishad Please make sure that this page is restored. Second, Ezhava were originally Buddhists and so there were no caste where Ezhavas can be accommodated. 10) Sanyasa Upanishad Once his or her Kundalini activates, the man or woman become divine. 24) Avadoodha Upanishad #theyyamkannur. I am pretty sure that Brahmins and other castes have understood the reality. What kind of history you know about the Keralites and their migration, Same you cannot change history, how become looting Thiyyas and also your history and your mind/thinking way..never ever change ..stupid. The recent genetic study showed that Thiyyas are migrated from Krygisthan. @Wikipedia admins, People are going nuts about this caste thing. As per vedic terms they are direct sucessors of ila, who was daughter of shradheva manu with Haplogroup H/I/J/K subgroup K-M/R1a Ezhava Aristocratic family. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. The has rated your English skill at 34/100. However, the language Malayalam spoken by Thiyya community is having Kannada slang and having many Kannada words. Tribes under this category considered under Haplogroup K/L/M Mainly Scythian Tribes. But the fact is if any Hindu get married to other religion, Hindus always have to convert. I am just curious for people commenting here. 13) Savitri Upanisad 16) Brahmavidya Upanishad Other communities of Hindus, speaking Malayalam do not offer such things during pooja (rituals) or worship. Malabar region were under Madras province of India, under British rule, before Indian independence. Malabar cost starts in north from Kasargod, Kannur, Mahe, Kozhikode, Malappuram and Trichur districts in south. Thiyya eat fish, chicken and mutton daily. Open with Google, a Thisis submitted to University of Mysore for PhD in Anthropology, by V.Jayarajan. Since this inclution in Ezhava lost its freedom, cultural identityand all social and educational considerations. Profile Created for Daughter. She wasn't light skinned. Don't you want unity? Ulllat, I just find here many disunited people wanted to make more divisions within the community also with the Hindu dharma . EzhavaThe Ezhavas or Izhavas are the largest ethnic groups in Kerala, a south Indian state. For Thiyyer, Karanaver (expired famous family head), Gurukkanmar (teachers of martial art kalari), Vazhunnor (King) , famous Thiyya warriors, different forms of Devi, Shiva, Vishnu, Bhyravan and other bhootha ganom of Shiva etc. However, the bride will have some gold ornaments for her use as per the capacity of her parents. I don't remember reading the entire article of yours. Myth states that Sage Agastya was not just diluting the risk of Kalakeyas rather he was the key man in amalgamating/ rehabilitating many of such abolished tribes in to the Dravidian Civilisation by bringing them back to the main stream. Many such tribes in combination formed local landlord group. I feel disgusted even to reply to such a comment. I am serious. Note most Christians and Muslims are from these castes. 2) Kurma - came after the atmospheric air became breathable and fishes started scaling the beaches for food and evolved into tortoises. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unniyarcha (talk • contribs) 12:44, 2 September 2019 (UTC), Hindus are nuts! This is the “Time” elapsed which is in the time used in our Mahasankalpa. The same myth is mentioned in all religious book in different names as Gilgimesh, Noah etc. She was very good in sword fight (kalaripayattu) , also a Thiyya. I am Thiyya but its the same.' 26) Role of Kalakams among Tiya community of northern Kerala. It's nothing but prostituition.. We are called Baidya(Tulu word for Vaidya) because of ayurvedic treatment, Birva(Archer) because archery or warrior and traditional palm tree wine(Kadamba Soma) tapper and we have Bari or gotra(which maternal family root name so that brother's property transfer to sister's son not his son (not now)and father does not belong to our family he belongs to his mother's family)and we accepted Shree Narayana Guru as our philosopher and now we are called Poojary in our native. It is Thiyyas community’s right to offer tender coconut for abhishekam (rituals) to god Siva at Akkara Kottiyur Shiva Temple, in first week of June, once in a year. So called Greeks are bankrupt, lazy people as of today. Don't be ridiculous! Maniyanis(yadava) or Vaniyans are not a low caste or avarna caste (outcastes). Being from the South, I wasn't even aware of my caste until 10th where I had to give my caste certificate. As per vedic interpretation it comes under a Chandravanshi Clan Or Lunar lineage. 3) Arsheya Brahmanam There by Kerala's max Chenda melam (Drum and music) will be performed by Malayar community. Makkale dea This room is used by only ladies, meant for delivery, new born child and mother’s purpose. They seem totally okay with it. 3) Gandharvavedam Name of some gods and goddess and types of gods Thiyya worship: Thiyya community worship, Muthappan, TheeChamundi, Patichamumdi, Gulikan, PooKuttichathan, Chattakuttichathan or Shasthappan, Bhiravan, Uchitta, Paradevatha, Valiya Bhagavathi, Cheriya Bhagavathi, Ponmakan, Ponmakal, Pothi, Poomala Bhagavathi, Thamburatti, KarimKali, Vazhunnor, Karanavanmar, Gurikkanmar, Mannappan, Raman, Vayanattu kulavan, Bali, Sugreevan, Hanuman, Bappuran, Daivathar, Vettakoru makan, Angakkaran, Kandanar Kelan, Pottan, Kandarkarnan, Vasoorimala, Kathivanoor veeran and so many other and its vellattam in the form of Theyyams. The main reason the Thiyyas were given a OBC status by the Kerala Gov was that some of their community leaders had much soft approach towards lower caste people. Aren't they the same? So? Thali on neck, a marriage ring on ring finger are the indication of a married Thiyya lady. Thank you, Rahul, for enlightening us. While the majority of Keralans speak the Malayalam language, various ethnic groups may speak other languages as well. Lineage of Thiyyas? He was so efficient administrator. So now a days every thiyyas trying hard to make them forward cast.. Lol leave history behind as it it is (Thiyyas were backward community before as it's now) .. Considering this facts, this page should be separately kept. Many occassions the nampoothiri men would turn a blind eye to such relations as it would lead to dishonour to the family & could lead to altercation with the aggressiveThiyyas who were ever ready to physically take on the namboothiri. @ Rekha Hi Rekha, I understand your attachment to cultural things but I don't really understand one's attachment to a caste. Dear All, Hindus Mahasankalpa has mentioned the same point as the modern science as far as this period is concerned. Veda means knowledge in Sanskrit. A request to all, Please dont fight among our selves. Before reciting the Vedas, name of the Rushi, who has written that sloka, will be read first along with its Chandus and the Devatha (God). If we talk from the Genealogical point of view, Kalakeyas and Daityas (asuras) fall in to Haplogroup C & D, whch indicates prior to them also there were dehumanised beastly powerful tribal genus existed like Vanaras & Danavas (Rakshas) , those who can be counted under haplogroup A&B as Negroid and related genus. You were saying your approach of mannerism, culture, leadership, skill, genuineness? In all old authentic religious and scientific books of Hindus, the date is mentioned in Kali varsham and Kali dinam. So maybe this comment section needs to be respectful to each other. This would be a blend of Mythology and Haplogroup study of Tribes. 2) Thythereeya Aranyakam, I. Rig veda Upanishath You should understand that Ezhava is a collection of many sub castes which had so many rich and poor people. I mean I seriously didn't even know the existence of Thiyyas. The marriage ceremony will be finished within 10 to 15 minutes. Do you want to know the caste, community, and religion of all top Malayalam actors? In Malabar they are called Thiyya, while in Tulu Nadu they are known as Billavas. Pinne ith kooduthalum malayalies ayirikyum vayikyunna Thiyyas were backward and still they are and they will be in future.. You can't change your history.. Later Kartyavir fought with his own Rajya Guru Jamadhangini Maharshi and killed him for capturing the precious Kamadhenu. The day when Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn and Earth come in one line with Meda sankranthi, the Alpha Aries point. A nair and even a Tulu Brahmin. But unfortunately the context in which this information is presented and the lack of any reference makes me a skeptic. From there ,the group migrated through the sind province,Gujarat, Maharashtra , and to southern India. Then, groom will put or tie Tali (golden chain) to bride, on her neck and then groom will put a flower garland to bride. He rode horses and destroyed enemies .He had dogs with him at all times ,perhaps for hunting and protection. Earlier, Thiyya poojaris (priest) has to wear washed cloths, which were washed by Vannathy (lady belongs to Vannan community), while performing pooja (rituals) (called Vannathymattu). 29) Garuda Upanishad Note there was no such thing as India or Indians in those days it was just a continuous shade of humanity of increasingly European features going northward. instead of going on like this. 17) Yogatathva Upanishad Thiyyas and Ezhavas are same. anhilation from a United Hindu Thiya-Ezhava front. The-split-out India has the second most diverse DNA. This guys count them in Haplogroup R/R1a/R1b.This tribes are counted as Indo Aryans, who believed to be preceders of Vedic Nordics (talk) 14:58, 28 April 2019 (UTC). Learning Sanskrit is very easy. After a Thiyya wife become pregnant, on the 7th month there is a ceremony called pungam. I have a relative who is darker than most Black Americans here but calls himself a lineage of Greek ancestry. Theyyems are performed once in a year in Kavu, accept in Parassinikadavu Madappura, where Theyyems are performed daily throughout the year. Satheesh Lal nedinhall , As a thiyya ,I want to tell don't boast that thiyya are Greek , Americans , British immigrants stop all these nonsense and enimity to fellow Hindus . Until the end of Royal rule, Ezhavas were considered a backward community, because of their position outside the Hindu four-fold caste hierarchy and their unwillingness to cater to the needs of the upper caste Brahmins and royalty. Thiyya male wear white mundu (dhothi) in clock wise direction and shirt. Nikhil. Leave this matter aside and just read the note . And it's not true that thiyyas had any concubinage relationship with Varmas or Nair. Its gonna wipe out forever. Also worship Idols of Shiva, Parvathi, Ganesha, Subramanya, MahaVishnu, SriKrishna, Saraswathi, Mahalaxmi, Hanuman, Raman etc and Shivalingam. 1) Matsya - came when only fish existed on earth as confirmed by science, evolution started in the sea; there were problems so God had to come as a fish to solve the problems – when everyone is a fish you come as a fish to educate. (Genealogical Haplogroup H/ I/J/K with submutation to L-M & R1b)…, Nairs or Nagars or Newars are Originated as Naga Tribe at Hindu-Kush region of Central Asia and evolved as a Indo-Mangloid race at Sino-Tibetan valley known or as western brachycephal Tribes. Let me tell you something bruh. Thandan and Thiyya castes. The Krutha Yuga = 4,32,000 x 4 years. They claim to be from Sri Lanka and was brought to Malabar to fight for Chera kings. Govt of Kerala should immediately seperate thiyyas clubbing with any community and grant tribal status and separate religious status to thiyyas.we are neither obc nor hindus.we are real tribes. The out of India theory for Thiyyas is worth having a look into, but it doesn't seem viable. Sage Agastya and sage Kashyapa were African or early Indians; our earliest myths were taking place in-between Africa and India. Most of the time, his answer used to be correct. Currently he is an officer in a big unnamed company, and it was on a business trip that he reached Sri Lanka. There were so many Chekavers in north Malabar region like, Thacholi Othenan, Thacholi Chandu etc. The shaft reached Parassini where the famous Parassini Temple stands today. He explains, and at length she yields. 7) Seetha Upanishad Still most of the koolies in kannur are no one but thiyyans only. And so we were given this lower caste thing, as the upper castes considered us to be a threat to their government jobs, conversion of other people to Buddhism or whatever. Secondly thiyyas did have relationships with Nayars and Varmas, though not as frequently as Nayar/Nambuthri. It has the same meaning that Tibet is included in Burma. It is the 13th most populous state in India with an overall population density of 2,200 people per square mile or 860 per square kilometer. Get your facts right. Thiyya performs Payamkutty (a ritual pertains to Muthappan) in every Thiyya house in most of the week. 4) Shadvimshad Brahmanam The only reason for this confusion is because community names are so similar, another fact which favored the same was that both of these communities followed the great social reformer Sri Narayana Guru and got a common community name atlast. Rather, the inclusion happened due to mistake of some social engineers. 3) Vyakaranam Millions of tender coconuts are being offered collectively by all Thiyya families of Kannur region, during the festival there in first week of June, every year. @ Rekha Kolkaly, Poorakkali, Maruthukali etc are practiced by Thiyya men. The rest of Kerala state was under Travancore and Kochi kingdoms and were not under British rule before Indian independence. They evolved shells to protect themselves from the hot beaches. The time: The time we specify from Kalpa -> to Manwanthara -> Yuga -> Varsha or year -> Ayana -> masa or month -> Paksha -> Thithi – samaya or time. Which is clearly the reason why different castes want to be a part of Ezhavas. When we say 7th mutation it means already 6 generation of breeds were already crossed. It was checked and proved through computers by programming for statements given in Rig Veda and Thithereeya Brahmana. They are idiots who repeat the same mistake over and over again. They were probably descendants of Rajputs,who later became fierce fighters and warriors. Thiyyas never believed in God, they worshiped their Ancestors,The Muthappans. EzhavaThe Ezhavas or Izhavas are the largest ethnic groups in Kerala, a south Indian state. That is their rights. Think of your future. From the geneological point,Kalakeya tribes can be linked with astraloid aborginal tribes like andamani jerova tribes, srilankan veddas, western ghat based kallars, maravar, kadars, munda etc. Thanks to Manikandan for the question; Technically Thiyya and Ezhava are not same, rather two different castes. This is the famous Kunnathoor Padi. You are free. After the marriage, the marriage registration will be done in the Village panchayat office or Municipal office, pertains to brides residence area. If they had converted back then, think about the situation of the balance Hindus. Nithinkuriyangara (talk) 17:40, 21 January 2014 (UTC), Belongings to Haplogroup L. I don't know why Thiyyas want to split and say they want Hindu's to unite? Many Theyyams rituals are performed by Malayar community, other Theyyems rituals are performed by Vannan community, Some Theyyems rituals are performed by Munnoottan community, and some other Theyyems rituals are performed by Anjhoottan communities etc. Basically, it is the story of the Avatars: My husband's family a different one related to them. The performer of Theyyam ritual has to take vratham (fasting) for many days before he perform the rituals. You can clearly see the page history and find the reason, (talk) 19:39, 30 December 2012 (UTC), I have just redirected this article to Ezhava. I have friends and family who are a mix of upper and lower caste.But we don't think of ourselves as inferior or superior. To clarify further details, i would take the support of myths and history so that all of you understand how these lineages, tribes, clans and caste formed from a single human breed. ”, - Castes and Tribes of Southern India (Vol - 7), by British museologist Edgar Thurston (1855-1935). Open your eyes before its too late. They follow marumakkathayam. The Varmas or Nairs never had blue eyes.. We feel proud for not accepting Hinduism in the early years. 41) Learn Astrology in Malayalam Aritajyothi channel in YouTube. Mr. Sunil, 19) Skanda Upanishad Ahir or Ayar means vagabonds. 17) Theyyaperuma Delivery and child birth assistance used to be provided by Mali, the lady of Malayar community. The Thiyya, who are expert in Kalari payattu were called with a title as Chekavar. I am so happy to read your comment Mr. Ravi. Again, an Izhuvan could have no objection to drinking from a Tiyan's well. The children born of that relationship are called Thiyyas since they were born from Thee (fire in Malayalam). As these acts were against the Namboothiri way of life, His parents earnestly requested Him to stop this practice, but the boy turned a deaf ear to their warnings. Thiyya marriage divorce ceremony ritual system is allowed and accepted by the Indian judiciary system for Thiyya marriage divorce cases, in 2017, by District court at Tellicherry, Kannur district, Kerala, India. If you want to read, read it. You can pray by yourself by sitting or standing or lying position, anywhere and ask the god what you want, with clarity and without any confusion. The space or place: While Hindu do rituals, first they explain the space or place, where they are doing the rituals then they chant mantra then they specify the time they do the rituals and then the person (perceiver / observer) who do the rituals and what is the ritual (the observed) etc.. For example, a person performing the rituals from Prasanna Bhavan, Thottada, Kannur, Kerala, India will tell like this; The space or place starts from the Universe (Brahmandam) -> to this solar system -> to earth -> to Asia (jambu dweepa) -> to Bharath varsha (India) -> to Parasurama kshetra (Kerala) –to Kannur -> to Thottada -> Prasanna Bhavan (sannidhi or the actual place), where you are doing the ritual (thus the space or place is made very clear). After his death , people worshiped him as god in many parts of North Malabar . The general Hindu population of Kerala other than the Brahmins did not consider covering the upper body as a necessity. 18) Thuriyatheeya avadhutha Upanishad, 1) Khata Upanishad Detailed explanation by Dr.N Gopalakrishnan on YouTube. Vishu is Thiyyer’s New Year. Who told u this matter, please don't say anything ok, do u know who is Muthappan? One can reach to the God, the ultimate Truth, through Ganapathi, Shiva, Parvathi, Krishna, Rama, Vishnu, Mahalaxmi, Saraswathi, Subramanyan, Hanuman, Muthappan, Ayyappan, kuttichathan , Chamundi, Gulikan, Bhagavathi, Thamburatti etc.. Lord Ganapathi has to be worshipped first to begin with for any activity. Thekkan ezzhavas are billionaires athinte pangu pattan avarana ariyam 12) Kuntika Upanishad They seeked protection from Sree Narayana Guru and now wants to split. We hindus never help each other compared to christians and muslim community.The worst part is me being a thiyya have not got help from my thiyya relatives or community. There is no one to restrict you from anything. Ezhavas have enough glorious past to be proud of and need not allign with Thiyyas for that. And as humans we have to help each other . And knowing about our ancsestors or what out forefathers had been is not a racial discrimination or any caste comparisoN . 6) Theyyam Sometimes Smarthavicharam lead to the nampoothiri women getting married to Thiyya men. Numerous Wars happened among these Dynasties for power and many internal conflicts too …One of such well known Lunar infight was called Mahabharata. They have forcefully accumulated Vedas and burnt the Vedas in fire for many weeks to eliminate Hindus and promoting Islam in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Each Theyyam is having different costumes with different face decoration (mukhathezhuthu) , different head gears (Muti) and different thottam. Finally Parasuram killed Kartyaveerarjuna. 14) Travelkannur Later on, it got vanished and now, very few people know the kalari payattu. 17) Shatyayana Upanishad That is their rights. Please be aware of that fact first. This was the earlier practice. When reading the comments I am like' What is wrong with these people'? Thiyya comprise of about 70% population among Malayalam speaking Hindus in north Malabar region of Kerala state and about 80% of Malayalam speaking Hindus in Mahe in Pondicherry. Solar lineage count their origin of clan thru vaivishta> Kashyap> Marich and termed themselves superior in race with sunny skinny.King Rama, Dileep are believed to born in this lineage. 9) Amruthanada Upanishad Then both bride and groom will sit in the mandapam for some time. 21) Bhavana Upanishad 16) Athma Upanishad Does that make any sense?Talk about Thiyyas position after a couple more of years. The point is : try to help atleast your fellow Thiyyas( not just your relative) rather than complimenting self. They are also found amongst the Malayalee diaspora around the world. this is ezhava sslc certificate of 10th std from government of kerala -, this is thiyya sslc certificate for thiyya caste students -, see the difference both are different . 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